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Posted - 2005.04.27 07:06:00 -
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Moved from EVE General Discussions to Missions forum - Jacques Archambault
Ok now I realise that some people may see this as flame bait, Or prehaps just yet another pirate wanting 'More targets' ... But well, Think what you like.
I for one from a roleplaying point of view see it as kind of un-ethical that 2mill+ bounty NPC pirates are spawned every day for the high sec (0.5-1.0) agent runners. In their own descriptions some of these pirates are notorious and evil. Yet blatently Concord must be letting them in for small bribe of dancing girls that they can enjoy down their local shipyard.
Now some of these infamous pirates even spawn at the gates themselves or even stations. yet concord and the sentry guns do nothing to clear them off ? Yet an outlaw in the same situation would be pwnd in an instant. So where do these pirates dock for amunition and drugs ? Surely they cant dock at empire stations ?
Exodus was supposed to draw people out to 0.0 and low sec was it not ? Looking at the map I think we can all agree this hasn't happend My proposal is for the something on the following lines.
Remove all high end NPC rats from level 4 missions within 0.5 - 1.0
Now what you class as high end is debatable .. As the NPC's dont have a sec status apparently visable hard to say what 'shouldn't' be allowed there. You can debate your own opinions on that. but personally I feel anything larger than 500k should not be there.
Re-distribute level 4 agents within empire
CCP have allready started to do this with the recent addition of those nice Q20 agents I would like to see ONLY 0.0 - 0.4 agents spawning the high end NPC's .. Where pirates belong.
From a roleplaying point of view PIRATES SHOULD NOT BE IN HIGH SEC EMPIRE.
If anything ive said makes no sense or if anyone that has had more than 4 hours sleep would like to elaborate on what ive said please help me out 
Please dont turn this into a flame fest. Please post your opinion but try to make it constructive.
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Posted - 2005.04.27 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Bad'Boy Edited by: Bad'Boy on 27/04/2005 07:09:45 just move them to 04. and lower(no l4 above 0.4 what so ever)..very easy to pirat there(probes pwns) 
Hmm well at least your making your intentions clear 
God bless honesty 
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Posted - 2005.04.27 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tobiaz It would certainly make the agents teameffort again since you'll need your buddies to keep your safe from the pirates.
But before anyone starts ****ing their pants. Pirates will likely think twice before they invade a system filled with dozens of NPCers who actually work together.
OMFG ... what are you suggesting Tobiaz ? that this is a Mutliplayer game  
That people should interact with others ? Dont be silly. This is a game where you fly on your own grinding NPC's isnt it ? 
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Posted - 2005.04.27 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Abigail101 Courrier and hauling mission runners in 0.5 and above get sent through 0.4 and below as part of their routes often enough as it is. Kill missions might be ok to be moved to lower sec systems (nice to see the LP's have nearly doubled on some missions ) as you're going to be in a BS anyway so have a better chance against the gankers (albeit you're only rigged for npc combat). If all level 4 hauling agents were in low sec space i'm not sure that it'd be worth the loss of ships and failure of missions given that you wouldn't be protected by some alliance as you probably would be outside empire.
Just my 2 isks
Thats very true. And I probably didn't say but the issue is with Spawning NPC rats. not an issue in courier missions normally so there would be no need to move them. Probably 
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Posted - 2005.04.28 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: X'Alor
Also think with this restructure they should open the sentry gun doors at the gates a bit and move the shoot on sight rating up to -6.5 to allow more access to empire space so that bad guys can have access to better markets as well.
Agree with mebbe some of your post... Except this.
Any pirate with a low sec .. as -5.0 is... Is a Pirate. they shouldn't be allowed in empire space. I personally have no problems with it. I choose to be bad and thats part of the punishment. One most people are happy to accept.
Apart from these girls that pirate in empire using war dec's . Actually I take back the pirate comment... theyre just lame 
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Posted - 2005.04.28 10:17:00 -
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Nope...
The devs said they are moving the agents to 'nearby locations' that doesn't mean theyre moving them to low sec. they will more than likely still be 0.5+
Nor does it alter the missions in any way.
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Posted - 2005.04.28 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Impale Hello, I am a noobie (3 months) and I have 2 bil isk plus own all the bs's. I like the agents how they are now so I disagree.
Nope your just an alt posting to try and cause flames.
Post with your main and let ppl know who you are or **** off
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Posted - 2005.04.28 12:43:00 -
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All this crap about going to 0.0 before being a year old... doing missions there in 0.0 - 0.4 is suicide yada yada is all complete rubbish.
Ive spent the last 3 months farting around solely in low sec - 0.0 .... How many times have I been attacked and killed ... NONE. Apart from i lost a scorp to Ranger Corp (But I started that fight so meh)
Its not suicide at all... people are simply to stupid to avoid getting killed. And im free game to all so youd think id be attacked frequently yes ? NO.
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Posted - 2005.04.29 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kyle Caldrel people afraid of the gategank- YOU HAVE THE TOOLS TO AVOID IT, USE THEM. IF YOU CANNOT SEE A GATEGANK, YOU DESERVE TO LOOSE YOUR SHIP. FURTHERMORE, IF YOU SETUP YOUR SHIP RIGHT, EVEN WITHOUT INSTAS, YOU CAN AVOID MOST GATEGANKS. Thanks you.
Secondly, in .4, you still have a sentry gun to cover ur butt. It takes 3 bs to take down 1 bs with sentrys fireing. If your setup right, with mwd, jamming, travle setup, they need a HUGE force to take you down. Just my 2 cents. TBH, you carebears should stop being scared of .4... onos! you MIGHT get shot at by another player.... but if you stick to gates/stations, you are prettymuch covered.
Agreed - I pirate solo and there is simply no means to kill a bs at a gate on my own. Unless the friendly blighters fire first of course 
As to gatecamps. Insta's are your friend Unless there sat 180km sniping at you. In which case if your bs cant withstand the couple of seconds to fly the 1000m at most (bookmarks aint allways 100% accurate, 3km Sphere I think) then you deserve to die
And if your too lazy/stupid to make them yourself... buy some ffs.
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